get out here, that's what you're still doing. you just keep rolling with that same thing. >> dan think and kelly, you -- danny and kelly, you guys, obviously -- i don't really know you guys, i don't know what your sort of priorities were before you got involved in this case, but, i mean, how has this changed, how has this changed you guys? >> yeah. >> kelly just said turned us into people. she didn't have the mic on. >> yeah, exactly. that was funny, the first time that we visited damien, you know, they bring him in, and his, you know, his hands are behind his back, and he's got his back to the door where they're unlocking him, and it's almost comical because you can tell right away when you meet him that he's so, that he's harmless. and besides being a pretty good con man, i'm also a minor criminal, and so it was -- [laughter] the fact that he was in prison and i was on this side of the glass was, you know, laughable in a ways. [laughter] but the -- i would say really for me, like, i always admired activism or activists and especially fond of, like, the '60s counterculture fellas, and
